i recieved an awesome document in my youtube messages yesterday.
the person giving it told me it was the best description of the experience he had went through which involved entering and exiting the watchtower over the course of only a few years.. .
written by jamie boyden [<--not sabastious] sunday, 08 february 2009 14:19. .
" A third condition limiting an examination of the Watchtower cult during the decisional conflict stage is the very lack of information available to investigate. There is a lot of literature, books, tapes, and tracts exposing the teachings and history of the JWs, but it is often not as easy to find it at the exact time the initiate needs it.''
No longer, thanks to the internet and to sites like this!
i am looking for confirmation on the following:.
jws are now being individually assigned to smaller territories, and they are told to consistently work that same territory over & over again.
the reason is that the watchtower wants the jws to build relationships with the people in that area.
It seems they're thrashing about trying to find some way to reanimate the increasingly sluggish masses
inspired by many on jwn board, my goal is to every sunday study the article and find the manipulative parts.
if you would like to join me that would be great!
we can then find them together and then find what the scriptures or insights truly means with research, our own understanding, or maybe how it should be interpreted to ones self.
" The branch is full of hypocrites, they deny the rank and file what they themselves enjoy, let's see- great room and board, free medical / dental and computers etc. not to mention building a huge recreation complex at the "farm" with a cushy retirement home for CO's, DO's and big wiggs etc."
... and not to mention a virtual "pass" on going on in field service and attending meetings with the local yokels, by invoking "Bethel duties"
so i argue with the boyfriend a lot about the fact that i think charitable work is every bit as important as preaching when it comes to serving god.
every church i've ever gone to has some sort of community outreach, if not several outreaches, that have little or nothing to do with preaching.
and i made the point that if these people know you're affiliated with a church, they'll think a little more kindly about christians, too, which would help in the whole witnessing arena.
JW doctrine fosters disdain--- contempt even -- for the "worldlies" who are soon to be vaporized for not having listened to their "join us or die!" (per)version of the Good News.....
dear brothers and sisters, i watched a disturbing video on youtube of this born-againer beating the hell out of some old timers in utah( i think.
) and his conduct was hideous, not christlike one bit.
the question i pose to you is this, how many jws were you truly impressed by their use of the bible?
Ding, I agree entirely. The competence of the average JW to defend his/her beliefs with just the Bible in hand is at an all-tme low, and likely to get lower. As you say, they run for cover whenever a householder shows any semblance of ability to refute/contest any of their prepared statements.
i would like to relate with the first suicide that took place this year, this was more than seven months ago.
this person was deeply distraught and was talking about killing themself.
the conduct of this person started to escalate (deep depression with morbid thoughts.
Gubberningbody, I beg to differ: The incessant pressure to "do more" and put-down of any effort to fulfil one's perfectly normal desire for self-affirmation or personal worth through development of one's talents is unique to JWs, and an enormous contributor to one's sense of worthlessness.
i just came across this on another thread with pictures/photos ,is this for real ?
i couldnt beleive my eyes or ears?.
the control that this organization has over it`s members... is ..is ... well it`s a cult !!
It's all about whitening the outside of the sepulchre (Matt. 23:27)
i would like to relate with the first suicide that took place this year, this was more than seven months ago.
this person was deeply distraught and was talking about killing themself.
the conduct of this person started to escalate (deep depression with morbid thoughts.
True, so true WT Wizard; the only thing these guys excel at is making a bad situation worse; in this case with tragic consequences.
on sundays study we were always told to keep answers brief and from the paragraph as some brothers would add "other meterial" to their comments.
the "correct" answer is right there in the paragraph.
read question --------find answer in paragraph------underline/highlight------read related {not] scripture-----raise hand---give answer from paragraph as though it's your own thought.
Teary's classroom analogy is flawed in several respects; in the first -- and most obvious -- case, the WT conductor is not a "teacher" in the academic sense; he does not prepare the curriculum, select the reference materials or grade any paper submissions. He's as much of a student as those sitting in the KH seats, he just has the job of leading the session and is no futher advantaged with prior knowledge of the subject than anyone else in the room. His marching orders from Brooklyn are clear and unambiguous -- song, get the paragraph read, take comments, song, prayer and don't stray to far afield.
it's bizarre to me for a religion as public as they are, and as obstensibly devoted to delivering the one and only message for the ages, with their tireless pounding on the public's doors, that they are remarkably averse to delivering their message openly -- on the air and in a public forum.. i suspect they know most of their core beliefs are indefensible, and downright cartoonish in their unwillingness to come to terms with unassailable facts of sicence and history relating to evolution, the age of the earth, the flood etc.
and know they would be laughed off the stage at any public airing.
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It's bizarre to me for a religion as public as they are, and as obstensibly devoted to delivering the one and only Message For The Ages, with their tireless pounding on the public's doors, that they are remarkably averse to delivering their message openly -- on the air and in a public forum.
I suspect they know most of their core beliefs are indefensible, and downright cartoonish in their unwillingness to come to terms with unassailable facts of sicence and history relating to evolution, the age of the earth, the flood etc. and know they would be laughed off the stage at any public airing.
